True Nazism at its finest. About a month ago (August 2010) I received my first ACS phone inquiry. I have received two forms, and have no intention of responding. Some citizens believe that city planning should be carried out through the collection of anonymous, aggregate information. One fact I see missing is that they say you are cheating you state and city out of government funds (our tax dollars). They are not! why are they taking polls for illegals? Personally, I want to know how many rental houses are in my town, I want all the representatives we deserve and I also really like looking at the 1920 and 1930 census to learn about my ancestors. Don't be paranoid, it's only a few questions a lot of people already know about you anyway. She stated that her supervisor sent her back out. We do live in a relatively remote area, and none of them can make sense of maps they are provided with. On the back of the ACS form it states: "Respondents are not required to respond to any information collection unless it displays a valid approval number from the Office of Management and Budget.". Are you kidding? Those of you who filled it out have no backbone or common sense. I will not be giving some 18 year old pimple face unemployed moron my personal information. And no one can say with a high degree of certainty whether the virus was the result of . For instance, the ACS asks about the acreage of your property and any agricultural sales from the property,[7] your ancestry,[8] your citizenship status,[9] your daily commute (including when your leave home and how long it takes to get to work),[10] the computing devices you own,[11] the fertility of women in the household,[12] the fuel used to heat your house,[13] the number of rooms in your house,[14] and the year in which your house was built. The ACS and Census Bureau have no legal standing to enforce the bogus laws that were passed to allow this survey. These people can often stop this kind of activity. So be it. Housing 19b. Where did they get the data? Let me get this straight: we cannot ask an illegal alien for papers because of racial profiling but we can try to force american citizens to fill out the ACS which has profiling information in every question? No, they aren't good people just trying to make a living as some might say. Commission, 32 Fed. Not to mention the ethnic origin of any person on a questionnaire is profiling a house. (ACS question number 33). The American Community Survey (ACS) is a nationwide survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau to provide communities with demographic, social, economic, and housing data every year. I was truthful in all 10 short form answers. Get over yourselves. The census has gone outside the Constitutional limits for years with what they ask on the actual survey and now this? My husband said he is going to start asking them the personal questions and leave it at that. We have been approached numerous times on our property, been left threatening letters and messages on our answering machine, and there seems to be no end to it. And, if the above comments stated that he can find all the info on the internet, then by all means find it, and leave me alone. She then said "so you are refusing". He said he'd pass that along. That went into the fire. Why am I in the unlucky 2.5%? The virus was not developed as a biological weapon, and it probably wasn't genetically engineered. How do we know who these people actually are? I upgraded my cell phone to one that I can take video with and that has a large memory. My sister and I are fuming over these forms. When I returned home he was scared and thought he did something wrong. I asked her if she had related my story to the supervisor. Census employees never ask for social security numbers or full financial disclosure. Box/Route Number Area code. A Census Bureau representative is quoted in this report as saying that the Bureau is really not in the business of prosecuting people who dont comply.[33] However, a refusal to answer the survey violates the letter of the law and a prosecution might be brought if the government decides to adopt a policy to do so. The calls/personal visits stopped. See Clemons v. U.S. Dep't of Commerce, 710 F. Supp. I ignored all of them. Learn more about 2021 ACS data releases, including the latest release of new 2017-2021 ACS 5-year PUMS files and Variance Replicate Estimate Tables. Thank you for your time and attention to this, and I expect this matter to be closed. About the American Community Survey makes you wonder!!!???? You may have noticed over the past week on the news, many articles about the new situation in American families where the wife is now the major bread winner/wage earner. We are so far from what our forefathers prayerfully constructed as a government that it will take a real miracle from heaven for a national revival now. For our government to function basic knowledge about the country as a whole, and individual states is required. Thanks! mandatory. Its as if this part of the government wants to create dirt on someone if they can find it! I've been in some pretty terrifying situations and I don't scare that easily. The way I see it, subsections a and d of section 141 do not authorize a January 2010 collection of information. I already returned that info in the original census last year. In fact, the ACS launched in 2005 to replace the census "long form." Q: What kind of questions are contained in the ACS? It is the premier source for detailed population and housing information about our nation. this person got in the building somehow! I received your American Community Survey some time ago, and shortly thereafter returned the survey, including only the information you are authorized to collect, and I am required to provide, per the requirements of Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, that is, the number of persons in our household, for the purposes of proper apportionment of our US Congressional representation. And nowhere in the Library of Congress has any bill ever given them the right to fine you. Should be interesting to see if they ever follow up again. They must have found it because I heard no more but neither did I get an apology. Any discrepancies, intentional or not, could result in an IRS audit of your returns. Title 13 section 141, subsections (a) and (d) authorize surveys. they started harassing my boyfriend and some how i got thrown into it because i live here. so earlier before i got home he called me and told me his story of her showing up. In the article above, it mentions the fine is per offense; but I did not read that anywhere in Title 13. I just left a "Tea Party" I found out I'm not the only 1 that was asked to fill out two census forms, one asking me if I could go up and down stairs, how long it takes for my husband to go to work, how does he get there,how many rooms is in my house, do I have flush toilets, what kind of health insurance, how much is my house payment, insurance on my house, do I have insurance, etc. Questions and Answers about the ACS in , , Franais, Kreyl ayisyen, , Polski, Portugus, , Espaol, Vit Ng. Do you have a debit card, credit card, a loan, a job, own a house, a car, driver's license? Thank you, fellow Americans! U.S. Census Bureau Notice and Consent Warning You are accessing a United States Government computer network. He gave his name and the number of people living here and refused to answer anything else. Bottom line: we are supposed to give private information to individuals who are part time, temporary employees of Uncle Sam, the ACS seems to be confused about what they have and have not received and the US Postal Service seems not to be working either. We've tossed two surveys in the recycle bin. how much to start our businesses etc. [2] Jill Wilson, R.I.P., Census Long Form, New Republic, May 12, 2010. https://newrepublic.com/article/74934/rip-census-long-form. I was mailed two ACS forms which I promptly threw in the trash because of the personal nature of the questions. During the last month since I received the first one, I've had many many phone calls from someone asking for my husband and saying he is from a veteran's charity. . "I'm afraid my trees are eating the elephants, now." what the hell??? One month ago, I received a letter stating that the census was coming. Unlike the traditional census, which is limited to a simple head count every ten years for the purpose of establishing representation in Congress, the ACS is sent on an ongoing basis to about 3 million homes every year at a reported cost of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.[2]. Most people allow themselves to be bullied and are afraid of breaking some law. Tell me, if you were in charge of managing a company and you asked your staff for information so you could make an important decision and they could not answer any questions, how long do you think it would be before a major problem arose? I have no idea about the ACS (or any of their personal questions). Isn't this harassment? I did not receive the additional questionnaire. I have written to the senators of my state and didn't even receive a 'canned' response. Im not and if their track record is any benchmark, nobody should. "; "What is your favorite color on Thursday afternoons between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m.? However, I am sure I will get another one. As such, any attempt by the government to encroach upon the citizenrys privacy rights or establish a system by which the populace can be targeted, tracked and singled out must be met with extreme caution. First I didn't send the form back "as soon as possible". I have written both my senators, Warner and Webb of Virginia, and stated my refusal to comply with the ACS. When are they going to get the hint and stop? This workshop will demonstrate through hands-on exercises on how to access data using the Census Bureau tools for short and long-term Community planning. A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. Since the threats appear to completely empty then at this point the consequences are null and void. If they harass you with phone calls change your number before they do the census and keep it unlisted. It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. Despite federal guarantees of increased funding, laws against not completing the questionaire and the Constitution clearly stating that every U.S. resident should be counted, both Census data and. There were laws in place to protect those people and they were not protected. I also ignored the mailed survey. I am a tax paying, hard working citizen, who would die fighting for my country and my rights, but didn't our forefathers already settle this fight? I have been harassed day and night. First time around it ended with phone calls and then they I was given a $25 gift card at the Home Depot. I also, as many of you, returned my census form (as I should and as the Constitution requires) but this has gone so far over the line that it's ridiculous. One of the three enumerators did canvass my neighbors and got hold of one of them, who tried to call me and advised the census people were looking for me (I did not return the voicemail). Q: Has the government prosecuted persons for refusing to answer the American Community Survey? They can send me the 2010 census with their 10 questions that I am required to answer and I will. I love my country and I'm proud to be an American. We have been like a frog cooked in our own water slowly. PLEASE let's get them back once and for all! The calls stopped and no one ever visited. She said she would mark me down as 'refused' If someone actually shows up I am going to take control of the interview and video my demand that they leave and not come back, and their response. I plan on turning over any fines or issues to these attorneys I know and I have used them before. I may answer the door this time, but my attitude is going to be that I won't allow this to cause me any more stress than deciding what toppings I want on my pizza. The census cannot ask or get your social security number in any way and you can supply any name you want. I said yes for about the third time and hung up. So I did not send it back. Not more that 10 minutes ago, a person came to the door unannounced, said she was from the ACS, and did I have a few minutes to fill out the survey. Call your senators and congressman now and lets get these commie creeps out of our lives and off our backs. We pay as much tax as a so called socialist country about 40 percent, but get nothing in return. This second survey is going right in the burner. Ive requested that you respect my privacy once, in writing, in the note I returned with your survey. I feel that a class action lawsuit should be started. I asked her if she had gotten a statement from my mortgage company-a release- and she found it and sent the refund. I am not giving my personal information out to anyone authorized by this government. They do NOT enforce noncompliance, because they know this survey is UNAmerican and UNConstitutional and would NOT stand up in a court of law against The People. Outraged in Maryland. The BIG 2010 census count is coming soon. I tossed out both copies of the ACS long form. Share sensitive information only on official, secure websites. The Census Bureau claims that it has the right to impose a $5,000 fine for failure to fill out the American Community Survey, but online sources suggest that they have never actually ever used this "power" - possibly due to the lawsuit that might result. The info tells them how many live in a certain area. On saturday he returned but I did not answer the door. DP03 SELECTED ECONOMIC CHARACTERISTICS. Census worker says "I am with the census.". this is the letter I sent the census bureau. Each plaintiff claims to have been visited by Census Bureau agents and informed that their response to the American Community Survey is required by law. Read our Newswire Disclaimer. Did not need the closing statement. Now there was the random insanely long, for one out of four, which I think is totally unfair. I've read the Constitution now and I fail to find any foundation for anyone asking questions of this nature. What time do I leave for work, -26:00 in the afternoon. It's paranoid people like you all who cause your communities not to get the funding they need. Stonewall them out. They will report any threats or harassment (allegedly), so be careful how you respond to them. What I want to know for sure is: Can they make, force, and punish you for not filling out this thing? Published: January 12, 2021 - 2:23 AM ROCHESTER, N.Y. (WHEC) Here's a Good Question-about an odd delivery in the mail. They're people just like you are, Americans just like you are. A locked padlock And it is supposed to be maintained private otherwise the census worker can go to prison or be fined or both. That's when I lost my patience and said "Look pal, you're here to count people right. Start Here . FORM. The 10-digit code appears above the address and to the right. They do snoop around. It has been more than 40 years since that was done and they do not want any court case to be brought up that can challenge the constitutionality of their threats. I will file a class action suit against the Government if they continue to harass me and hope to gain momentum in order to force the government to be liable for any information lost on their part. I even gave them the date I mailed it on. I demanded who he was for the third time and he said us census. The present state of affairs is a direct result of our collective ignorance. The government is doing nothing wrong! The Census Bureau boasts a 97% response rate to the survey via these methods,[34] but critics argue this constitutes harassment. I went through this myself and I read a Web forum that spanned several years with posters who had received the form, and what they had experienced. After giving it some thought, I felt compromised by the invasive questions asked, and decided that my right to privacy was surely being violated. Others have reminded me that this information about me is posted out in the paper world, cyber world, etc., somewhere. Now I find out he has been to my place of employment looking for me. No reason to be rude to someone doing their job. I refused to tell them financial info or how much I pay on a power bill. Follow your happiness and I promise the universe will be there for you: subtle, slow, obvious or quick it will respond to your emotions. Interpreting the change between April 1, 2000, and a five-year average for 2015- I was willing to answer the survey at first - thinking it would just be a headcount but then I saw the rest of the questions. Actually: for thoe who think you can merely fill out the form and not be called, that's a lie! [29] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Name.pdf. I said it sounded like a great idea. ), so did my 80 year old mother in another state. The US government already has all the information they need on people who file their annual income tax. While talking to the ACS lady on the phone I found out they didn't have a complete address and had sent me a form. Recipients of the American Community Survey are told several times that the information given is necessary for the operation of our government, is very secure and is kept private. This summer I sold my house and tried to cancel my FEMA flood insurance. I am proud to be an American, but not very proud of our government. My husband and daughter fielded a few of them and honestly told the workers they didn't have the information or the form so they'd have to try to catch me. We are given dominion (care) over so much and neglect it, destroy it, and enslave it. We keep refusing them and they keep threatening us. [12] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Fertility.pdf. We will then see them online. Please post legal options for readers when census takers are sharing personal information with neighbors! Soundbar sold separately. She offered me her badge and supervisors number. I am appalled by the questions asked on the ACS! i wish i still had my camcorder so i could do like the person said. And the big 2010 census is coming and they can't have ANY negative publicity. If they want more personal financial information, then I suggest they get it from the IRS. The harassment is ridiculous. I decided I did not want to answer the census because of the invasiveness of the questions. Avoiding them will not really be possible since we have a houseful of teenagers who will most likely keep answering the door. May the Lord grant my fellow citizens victory in their battles with this unconstitutional invasion of privacy, too. So keep your information private and don't give in. Departments. "I want to personally thank you for this article. ), What in the world is wrong with you people? Go Obama Care. Using new satellite data analysis techniques, researchers found that, since 2000, summer wildfires have expanded in boreal forests, which wrap around the northernmost parts of the Earth. Most U.S. representatives have local offices. The less you say to them the faster they stop bothering you. He told me that my info was not received and that he would be sending it back out in the mail. lets hope this isn't all to simply mark people who do and do not comply. Why doesn't the gov just sell us some cyanide instead of slowly picking away at our bones? He had to come through a closed gate. an American Patriot. Sorry, but you are really just not important enough for them to worry about, certainly not as much as you are obviously worrying about them. They never say that they are going to fine you. I am sickened by all of it. They are not better people, more deserving, more intelligent, more experienced they didn't know "how" things were going to work out they just knew they would. I am a retired airline captain and a former captain in the U.S.A.F. "; "How many times a day do you fantasize about blowing up a federal building? Does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as doctor's visits or shopping? The Legal Accountability Project. Firm, clear refusal and don't even hint that you have any fear of their authority. Subscribe to our newsletter and learn something new every day. How come I get the ACS? After the first couple of letters I received I started getting harassing phone calls from them. From the American Community Survey and your tax dollars at work. They have been to my house, my place of business, also calling my place of business and if told I am busy they inform me they will call again in one hour. I told the lady that I regarded the ACS as some kind of personal info fishing scam by criminals masquerading as the federal government and again stated that I had more than Constitutionally complied with the short form questions. It feels good to see so many of you willing to take a stand against this invasion of privacy. I can go on the internet and find more about you then anything the census is looking for. I will not answer the questions on the ACS. I responded to the ACS. I said I may have the second one, but discarded the first as a scam attempt. Don't fill out anything if you don't want the public to know some of your private information. It features stories on various topics such as housing, employment and population. So, I tore off the page with my address on it and shredded it, and then I tossed the rest of the survey into the garbage. Washington, District of Columbia, United States. The funny part is the local grocery store has this job post up. I've been through it. A couple were friendly; one sounded very "authoritative" and intimidating. The US Census Bureau says it's an essential tool in collecting relevant and timely data in order to understand and finance local needs for things like roads and schools. Many people I know who voted for this man are now regretting it. Glad I found this thread! Title 13 of the United States Code, however, requires that the Census Bureau keep this information confidential and subjects employees who violate this confidentiality requirement to a fine of up to $250,000 USD, up to 5 years imprisonment, or both. As one post on this site said "bring it on.". But seriously, It's not about conspiracy theories. Ct. 524,and it cannot be too often repeatedthat the principles that embody the essence of constitutional liberty and security forbid all invasions on the part of government and its employees of the sanctity of a mans home and the privacies of his life. [22] http://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-question/. As long as there are enough people who didn't fill out the census? Act drunk and make like you're going to be sick on them or pretend to pass out. Do they ever stop with this? Those of you who are interested just might try at least the internet to find out what this is all about. I filled out my form, sent it in and a few weeks later another one came. [18] Furthermore, the questionnaire also demands that recipients provide information about their family and other people in their home, such as their educational levels, how many years of school were completed,[19] what languages they speak[20] and when they last worked at a job.[21]. Well it started for me. So why do they need how many rooms are in the house, what I use to heat the house, what amount was my electric bill and so on and so on? They are so proud to be counted among the blessed. Well, I wonder what he's thinking now. Back to this census nonsense: I filled out the 2000 and don't owe them a thing until 2010 census. You want me to trust the census with information that is very private? We did not support and defend the Constitution for this crap. Federal law mandates as much, but the bureau also doesn't seek to penalize individuals who fail to participate. Mailed it in. The provision for the Census is found in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution. I received the ACS invasion of privacy letter on my door yesterday. We sent in the form with the number of people, then called the girl who left a note on our door. The Legal Accountability Project is a nonprofit aimed at ensuring that as many law . Fight the power. I was not in a hurry since I already had done this once. However, the gap between homeownership rates not only persists, but has grown. They again called a few days ago and I answered. The $5,000.00 fines referenced in section 3571 are post conviction fines that only apply to an individual who has been charged and convicted of a crime defined in section 3559. The whole purpose of the census getting shortened was to entice people to fill it out, not this 20-page crap. anon88369: Census enumerators have every right to walk onto your property if they are assigned to do a questionnaire for your address. About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home would sell for if it were for sale? The census is not going to do this or that. but who gets the census??? This is crazy -- why is this still going on and why aren't people doing something about it? Call your local U.S. congress member. Neither one of us filled it out, nor mailed it in. Soundbar sold separately. If you read and listen to them carefully they actually say that it's mandatory and you could be fined. Think anyone is going to get approval to send out US Marshals to issue tickets? And everyone should have to fill out the same thing-how come I get the long form every time? Non parlo inglese!" Ridiculous. I am with all of you that it is all wrong and will not return the form. Alternatively, those who returned the survey partially completed and communicated with the Census Bureau agents generally received more contacts. It came from data mining by the Pew Research Center. I am young and strong and will not put up with this sort of thing. You can't actually expect all of the decisions to be made accurately and take into account the needs at the consumer level based on a head county every 10 years. Objections to the ACS include the personal nature of some of its questions and, despite government assurances to the contrary, associated confidentiality issues. www.rutherford.org. "Um, I filled it out twice". Passive resistance is no longer an option. The judge summarized that general statements made by the Census Bureau with regard to, say, the support of federal law or that taking the ACS was required by U.S. law fall short of the benchmark necessary to constitute a specific threat of prosecution. I ignored the phone when it rang. In an age when the government has significant technological resources at its disposal to not only carry out warrantless surveillance on American citizens but also to harvest and mine that data for its own dubious purposes, whether it be crime-mapping or profiling based on race or religion, the potential for abuse is grave. Thank you for answering, I am grateful for this site, but hesitant to put email addy, or other info about me. I am an American! If that's so, why is there a space for your name, date of birth and so much other identifying information that a blind man could identify the author of the answers. You want me to put the popcorn in the freezer?" If all they want is a head count, all they have to do is count social security numbers! You'd better hope that you are aren't one of the unlucky three. With the census bureau losing over 600 laptops, and the current abuses of power, I see no reason to give out the information that they are asking. We do not have to fear picking up the phone or answering our door. all the government tries to say if they want you to do something is say "its the law" thinking people will run and do what they say. Can anyone tell me about this? The next day I got an e-mail saying that the "government guy" was OK with it and that I should return the form. I am becoming more and more ashamed I fought for this newly founded socialist government. Other than that, the sky is the limit. Thank God that we still live in a country where we can still tell a thug where to go. I ignored her as I was outside with my kids. Shame on you! [36] This same principle could apply to questions posed by ACS agents. Will we ever return to our freedoms? Ignore any paperwork they send you, hang up if they call you, demand they leave your property if they come to your home. I guess the fear that they may be prosecuted for trespassing on private property wasn't worth the questionnaire. ), vacated sub nom. I have therefore included both Article 1 section 2 of the US Constitution, and the US Supreme courts decisions in upholding the right to privacy. Have to love how the government pays people to harass you. It ridiculously says that the form is to help know where to put roads, schools, etc. I will not be returning her call. It doesn't do any good to argue with the census taker. Bunch of whiners who think the world revolves around their little lives and have paranoid conspiracy theories from watching too much TV. I didn't hear from them for about two weeks. I threw them off my property. Let's get them to spread the word. If my birth date is going to help somebody get elected or the state (district) gain an extra seat in the house, then get the expecting mothers' due dates for the year while at it.
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